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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.01.21 10:47:00 -
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Nothing wrong with NPCs primarying e-war, just like players would.
Solo PvPers should adapt or go play hello-kitty online.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2209
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Posted - 2013.01.21 11:06:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:
But yeah, if the tengu pilot is too stupid to align and too stupid to check local, he should be fair game for another player.
And if your stupid enough to use e-war on a player who is engaging rats, your ass is fair game for NPCs.
Working as intended.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.01.21 15:06:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:
But yeah, if the tengu pilot is too stupid to align and too stupid to check local, he should be fair game for another player.
And if your stupid enough to use e-war on a player who is engaging rats, your ass is fair game for NPCs. Working as intended. So if I warp disrupt a player who's aligning to warp out in his tengu I'm an idiot? Your logic astounds me
No, that would just set you up for a gank.
But if you do it in front of rats who your would be victim was engaging until he spotted you a few seconds prior... then your an idiot and those NPCs have just as much claim to your wreck as you do to your victims...
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2212
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Posted - 2013.01.21 15:10:00 -
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Sinigr Shadowsong wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Nothing wrong with NPCs primarying e-war, just like players would.
Solo PvPers should adapt or go play hello-kitty online. Oblivious solo-farmers became even more protected in a game that supposed to punish for oscitancy. Lowering conseqences for being air-headed mindless farmer is the thing that moves Eve toward your lovely hello-kitty online.
So explain to me how tackling a pretty helpless site running fit ship with all tank and no gank, does not make site gankers mindless killmail farmers who deserve to be punished for their oscitancy when not paying attention to the threats that are supposed to be the NPCs around them?
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2212
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Posted - 2013.01.21 15:15:00 -
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Bobbechk wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Nothing wrong with NPCs primarying e-war, just like players would.
Solo PvPers should adapt or go play hello-kitty online. Sure lemme just fit this cyno and watch you cry about being dropped by a carrier instead
Lol... I fully endorse hotdropping.
Survival of the richest.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:06:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:
No, that would just set you up for a gank.
But if you do it in front of rats who your would be victim was engaging until he spotted you a few seconds prior... then your an idiot and those NPCs have just as much claim to your wreck as you do to your victims...
Okay so if you want to prevent a player from escaping then you think that it's entirely logical for ALL NPCs to switch to you aswell as your target simply because ewar was used?
You sit cloaked within tackle range and wait for him to clear the site so the rats don't grab you in the process. You grab him before he warps out seeing as you will see him "align" or take out the last rat.
Too much logic for you to compute it seems.
Roderick Grey wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:
So explain to me how tackling a pretty helpless site running fit ship with all tank and no gank, does not make site gankers mindless killmail farmers who deserve to be punished for their oscitancy when not paying attention to the threats that are supposed to be the NPCs around them?
This comment shows me how little you understand nullsec. More try-hard stuff in an attempt to make poster sound knowledgeable.
I've been screwing around nullsec since 07, long before you came into the picture. Try again.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2222
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Posted - 2013.01.23 04:56:00 -
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Sheala de'Tancarville wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:
You sit cloaked within tackle range and wait for him to clear the site so the rats don't grab you in the process. You grab him before he warps out seeing as you will see him "align" or take out the last rat.
Too much logic for you to compute it seems.
That tactic is viable only for ships that can warp in cloak. Unfortunately, those kind of ships either have not tank at all (bombers) or have **** dps (force recons, cloaky T3s).
Its not my fault you can't fit ships or are too spacepoor to bring the right tools for the right job.
T3s can easily push 450-500 DPS with cov ops cloak and a huge (80-120k EHP) buffer tank. Thats your cue to bring logi support and some broskies for added dps/tackle. And these guys sit on a gate nextdoor waiting for word the target is tackled.
No broskies? No Cloaky tackle with "patients" or "tactical awareness" while your trying to take on a player surrounded by a blob of rats in the hope he's too preoccupied trying to survive the fight you clearly can't?
Working as intended.
Now go cry some more.
Sheala de'Tancarville wrote:
From my perspective solution is quite simple - if I don't attack rats and I'm not helping someone who's attacking rats (i.e. logi ships), then rats leave me alone. Unless, I'm the only ship on the grid - then sure, rat can aggro.
If I were caught in an anom with a blob of rats that just switched to my attacker, I would attack the attacker and let the rats help me.
Your issue is you wan't free access to kill anyone in an open target environment without getting shot at on account of what you believe the situation should be... a static event that won't effect you at all.
As far as I'm concerned, if a rat wants to take a shot at you for showing up at the wrong place at the wrong time (much like a gate camp), you were a fool for warping in there as you did.
Given the nature of your responses, its most likely some t1 cruiser or lesser ship with no backup, or a useless battleship that has limits in terms of what it can and cannot engage by itself, with zero tank to guard against the rat blob.
Again, it boils down to your fail choices that are now manifesting as a forum whine about a mechanic that makes you think for your kill, not just blob for a kill.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2222
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:26:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:
Can you please link your t3 fit?
More tank than bite
More bite than tank
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2222
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:28:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:
T3s can easily push out 450-500 dps. Yes, easily, given that you are flying a proteus and don't want that tank you promised. Else, 300-400 is way more realistical given an avergae of cloaky t3s. with 300 dps you can't even kill a solo drake.
So try harder.
I highly suggest you learn how to play with EFT..... Because the tank and the DPS are both possible in the same fit....
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2223
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Posted - 2013.01.23 14:19:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:
but the current situation is just wrong as the aggro mechanic is not working as intended, it is supposed to be smart, and respond to the threat posed to the rats, but ATM, it just aggro the last thing, be it a rifter, even if there are 3 machariel killing them on field they WILL switch
I haven't noticed this tbh.
I'll keep a look out or go test it with some alts.
But I have walked away from sites with part of the agro and I have seen it switched to me and from me to some1 else in my gang while we take out the poor capsuleer who didn't have the required amount of situational awareness. So as far as my experience goes, it seems to be going smoothly. Admittedly, sometimes some of us just end up finishing the sites as well.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.01.25 07:36:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
** Why should the rats "Not" shoot you and allow you an easy kill against an already damaged and weakened target?
From a logical stand-point why would faction rats target something not agressing them over something that is?
Because their rats. They target everything regardless of standings or context.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2288
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:07:00 -
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The tears coming from the would-be-griefer failures in this topic is delicious.
Carry on.
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